Exhibition Week 4, 2030

played in Madison, WI

45 degrees, fair, calm

Columbia Fire	0	0	7	10	-	17
Madison Demons	10	10	3	3	-	26

Scoring Summary
1Q: 08:39 MAD - Kenny Kotz 38 field goal
1Q: 01:22 MAD - Carlton Dabrowa 6 run (Kenny Kotz extra point)
2Q: 07:27 MAD - Kenny Kotz 55 field goal
2Q: 01:04 MAD - Leo Franz 26 pass from Korey Dailey (Kenny Kotz extra point)
3Q: 10:49 CLB - Cris Blair 3 pass from Melvin Robson (Eugene Boling extra point)
3Q: 04:59 MAD - Kenny Kotz 37 field goal
4Q: 13:49 CLB - Dean Mage 70 interception return (Eugene Boling extra point)
4Q: 04:54 CLB - Eugene Boling 50 field goal
4Q: 01:05 MAD - Kenny Kotz 41 field goal

Scoring Summary
1Q: 08:39 MAD - Kenny Kotz 38 field goal
1Q: 01:22 MAD - Carlton Dabrowa 6 run (Kenny Kotz extra point)
2Q: 07:27 MAD - Kenny Kotz 55 field goal
2Q: 01:04 MAD - Leo Franz 26 pass from Korey Dailey (Kenny Kotz extra point)
3Q: 10:49 CLB - Cris Blair 3 pass from Melvin Robson (Eugene Boling extra point)
3Q: 04:59 MAD - Kenny Kotz 37 field goal
4Q: 13:49 CLB - Dean Mage 70 interception return (Eugene Boling extra point)
4Q: 04:54 CLB - Eugene Boling 50 field goal
4Q: 01:05 MAD - Kenny Kotz 41 field goal

Team Statistics CLB MAD
Record 1-2 2-1
First Downs 11 28
- by Rushing 3 11
- by Passing 8 14
- by Penalty 0 3
Total Net Yards 161 456
- Offensive Plays 53 73
- Yards per Play 3.04 6.25
Net Rushing Yards 62 222
- Rushing Attempts 26 39
- Yards per Rush 2.38 5.69
Net Passing Yards 99 234
- Att./Comp./Intrcpt 25 - 12 - 0 32 - 22 - 2
- Gross Passing Yards 111 243
- Sacks/Yards Lost 2/12 2/9
- Yards per Pass Play 3.67 6.88
Fumbles/Lost 0/0 1/1
3rd Down Conversions 4/14 4/12
- Avg. YtG on 3rd Down 9.6 7.1
4th Down Conversions 0/1 0/0
Penalties/Yards 7/50 7/55
Punt Returns/Yards 1/4 4/48
Kick Returns/Yards 4/93 1/21
Interception Ret./Yards 2/70 0/0
2pt Conversions 0/0 0/0
Red Zone Visits 1 3
- Red Zone TDs/FGs 1/0 1/1
Avg. Drive Start OWN 33 OWN 27
Time of Possession 23:34 36:26

Team Statistics	CLB	MAD
Record	1-2	2-1
First Downs	11	28
- by Rushing	3	11
- by Passing	8	14
- by Penalty	0	3
Total Net Yards	161	456
- Offensive Plays	53	73
- Yards per Play	3.04	6.25
Net Rushing Yards	62	222
- Rushing Attempts	26	39
- Yards per Rush	2.38	5.69
Net Passing Yards	99	234
- Att./Comp./Intrcpt	25 - 12 - 0	32 - 22 - 2
- Gross Passing Yards	111	243
- Sacks/Yards Lost	2/12	2/9
- Yards per Pass Play	3.67	6.88
Fumbles/Lost	0/0	1/1
3rd Down Conversions	4/14	4/12
- Avg. YtG on 3rd Down	9.6	7.1
4th Down Conversions	0/1	0/0
Penalties/Yards	7/50	7/55
Punt Returns/Yards	1/4	4/48
Kick Returns/Yards	4/93	1/21
Interception Ret./Yards	2/70	0/0
2pt Conversions	0/0	0/0
Red Zone Visits	1	3
- Red Zone TDs/FGs	1/0	1/1
Avg. Drive Start	OWN 33	OWN 27
Time of Possession	23:34	36:26

Drive Charts

Columbia Fire
Quar	Began	Poss	From	Plays	Yards	Result
1	15:00	2:14	OWN 20	4	7	Punt
1	8:32	3:10	OWN 25	5	42	Missed FG
1	1:13	2:17	OWN 20	6	20	Punt
2	12:17	1:15	OWN 32	3	0	Punt
2	7:22	1:42	OWN 35	3	0	Punt
2	4:09	2:03	OWN 20	3	-6	Punt
2	0:50	0:50	OWN 28	4	18	Half
3	13:36	2:58	OPP 22	6	22	Touchdown
3	4:53	3:11	OWN 29	6	6	Punt
4	12:26	2:06	OPP 47	4	9	Punt
4	6:16	1:28	OWN 42	5	25	Field Goal
4	0:59	0:59	OWN 20	4	-2	Downs

Madison Demons
Quar	Began	Poss	From	Plays	Yards	Result
1	12:46	4:14	OWN 40	7	39	Field Goal
1	5:22	4:09	OWN 46	9	54	Touchdown
2	13:56	1:39	OWN 21	3	4	Punt
2	11:02	3:40	OWN 23	8	39	Field Goal
2	5:40	1:31	OWN 46	4	9	Punt
2	2:06	1:16	OWN 43	5	57	Touchdown
3	15:00	1:24	OWN 12	3	17	Fumble
3	10:38	5:45	OWN 20	10	60	Field Goal
3	1:42	3:03	OWN 17	7	50	Interception
4	13:39	1:13	OWN 22	2	11	Interception
4	10:20	4:04	OWN 20	8	45	Missed FG
4	4:48	3:49	OWN 20	8	56	Field Goal

Game MVP: Kenny Kotz, Madison Demons

Rushing Statistics

Columbia	Att	Yards	Avg	LG	10+
Buddy Gordon	18	48	2.67	10	1
Max Manubay	6	1	0.17	10	1
Melvin Robson	1	10	10.00	10	1
Jared Steuart	1	3	3.00	3	0

Madison	Att	Yards	Avg	LG	10+	TD
Carlton Dabrowa	21	127	6.05	23	4	1
Dustin Rice	10	38	3.80	14	1	0
Korey Dailey	6	46	7.67	18	2	0
Lewis McElroy	2	11	5.50	6	0	0

Passing Statistics

Columbia	Att	Comp	Yards	Sk/Yd	TD	LG	Int	Rate
Melvin Robson	17	9	66	2/12	1	11	0	82.0
Dave Finch	8	3	45	0/0	0	29	0	56.8

Madison	Att	Comp	Yards	Sk/Yd	TD	LG	Int	Rate
Korey Dailey	23	15	185	2/9	1	37	2	68.2
Blake Dawson	9	7	58	0/0	0	12	0	93.5

Receiving Statistics

Columbia	Catch	Targ	Yards	Avg	YAC	LG	TD
TE Cris Blair	3	3	25	8.33	4	11	1
WR Darnell Reiswig	2	2	17	8.50	0	10	0
WR Jared Steuart	2	5	34	17.00	29	29	0
TE Eric Cone	1	2	3	3.00	0	3	0
WR Donnie Iker	1	2	5	5.00	0	5	0
RB Matt Benton	1	1	3	3.00	0	3	0
WR Randall Dworak	1	2	11	11.00	0	11	0
WR Vincent Nowak	1	2	13	13.00	3	13	0
RB Buddy Gordon	0	4	0	0.00	0	0	0
WR Tracy Ramsey	0	1	0	0.00	0	0	0

Madison	Catch	Targ	Yards	Avg	YAC	LG	TD
WR Eugene Stuart	6	7	74	12.33	40	37	0
WR Leo Franz	5	7	72	14.40	20	26	1
WR Riddick Gonzalez	4	6	42	10.50	10	18	0
FB Lewis McElroy	2	2	9	4.50	10	8	0
TE Erik Diligencia	2	4	21	10.50	11	12	0
WR Eric Haynes	1	1	4	4.00	0	4	0
RB Carlton Dabrowa	1	2	3	3.00	0	3	0
TE Wes Hughes	1	1	18	18.00	0	18	0
RB George Sims	0	2	0	0.00	0	0	0

Interception Statistics

Columbia	Ints	Yards	Avg	TD
ILB Dean Mage	1	70	70.00	1
OLB Noah Schwartz	1	0	0.00	0

Madison	Ints	Yards	Avg	TD

Fumble Statistics

Columbia	Fumb	Recov	Force	TD
Walter Prescott	0	1	0	0
Braxton Baker	0	0	1	0

Madison	Fumb	Recov	Force	TD
Carlton Dabrowa	1	0	0	0

Punting Statistics

Columbia	Punt	Yards	Avg	Net	LG	In20
Axel Blair	7	313	44.7	35.0	57	2

Madison	Punt	Yards	Avg	Net	LG	In20
Billy Joe Jamison	2	92	46.0	34.0	47	0

Kicking Statistics

Columbia	FGs	40+Yd	50+Yd	LG	PAT
Eugene Boling	1/2	1/2	1/2	50	2/2

Madison	FGs	40+Yd	50+Yd	LG	PAT
Kenny Kotz	4/5	2/3	1/2	55	2/2

Punt Return Statistics

Columbia	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD
Johnnie Kania	1	4	4.0	0

Madison	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD
Eugene Stuart	4	48	12.0	0

Kick Return Statistics

Columbia	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD
Darnell Reiswig	3	69	23.0	0
Dominic Van Hoose	1	24	24.0	0

Madison	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD
Jamal Arnold	1	21	21.0	0

Defensive Statistics

Columbia	Tack	Asst	Sack	RPlay	PPlay
S Braxton Baker	8	3	0.0	37	30
OLB Noah Schwartz	8	0	0.0	34	21
DT Daryl Newhart	7	2	0.5	36	25
OLB Cory Drayton	7	2	0.0	29	29
ILB Robert Schwab	5	1	0.0	25	24
CB Dominic Van Hoose	5	1	0.0	37	31
DT Lonnie Drenik	3	1	0.0	29	24
OLB Walter Prescott	3	1	0.0	29	26
CB Eddie Kirk	3	0	0.0	7	11
S Lance Lane	2	3	0.0	28	25
S Amos Peterson	2	2	0.0	35	29
CB Johnnie Kania	2	1	0.0	31	29
DE Bubba Kollars	2	1	0.0	32	23
ILB Lionel Mohon	2	0	0.0	14	11
DE Adrian Adams	1	0	1.0	10	10
DT Leonard Head	1	0	0.0	3	9
DE Luther Mitchell	0	1	0.5	7	11

Madison	Tack	Asst	Sack	RPlay	PPlay
CB Brenden Flory	6	1	0.0	19	23
CB Leslie Flemister	4	1	0.0	19	25
OLB Kendall Steussie	4	0	0.0	18	20
ILB Floyd Hill	3	1	0.5	22	25
S William McGinn	3	3	0.0	21	23
DE Nicholas Schiller	2	0	1.0	6	12
S Cornelius Woodcock	2	3	0.0	20	25
DE J.C. Wayne	2	2	0.0	20	15
CB Jake Lapointe	2	1	0.0	23	26
DE J.R. Devine	2	0	0.0	13	18
DE Pat Barton	2	0	0.0	13	9
OLB Floyd Graham	1	1	0.5	16	14
ILB Korey Galloway	1	3	0.0	8	2
DT Ken Stoffers	1	2	0.0	20	26
S Jamal Arnold	1	0	0.0	11	10
ILB Roger Urbanski	1	0	0.0	5	2
S Renaldo Swillis	1	0	0.0	11	10
RB Dustin Rice	1	0	---	---	---
TE Erik Diligencia	1	0	---	---	---
OLB Ken Oliver	1	0	0.0	7	4

Pass Rush Statistics

Columbia	Sack	Block	Hurry	Knock	PPlay
DE Adrian Adams	1.0	0	0	0	10
DE Luther Mitchell	0.5	1	0	0	11
DT Daryl Newhart	0.5	0	0	1	25
DT Lonnie Drenik	0.0	0	1	0	24
DE Bubba Kollars	0.0	0	1	0	23
OLB Noah Schwartz	0.0	0	1	0	21
OLB Walter Prescott	0.0	0	0	1	26

Madison	Sack	Block	Hurry	Knock	PPlay
DE Nicholas Schiller	1.0	0	0	0	12
ILB Floyd Hill	0.5	0	0	0	25
OLB Floyd Graham	0.5	0	0	0	14
DE J.C. Wayne	0.0	1	2	1	15

Pass Defense Statistics

Columbia	Caught	Defnsd	Intrcp	PPlay
OLB Noah Schwartz	4	0	1	21
CB Dominic Van Hoose	4	0	0	31
S Braxton Baker	3	3	0	30
ILB Robert Schwab	3	0	0	24
OLB Cory Drayton	3	0	0	29
CB Johnnie Kania	2	0	0	29
CB Eddie Kirk	2	0	0	11
ILB Lionel Mohon	1	0	0	11
ILB Dean Mage	0	0	1	6

Madison	Caught	Defnsd	PPlay
CB Brenden Flory	3	0	23
CB Jake Lapointe	2	2	26
S Cornelius Woodcock	2	0	25
CB Leslie Flemister	1	2	25
S William McGinn	1	1	23
OLB Kendall Steussie	1	0	20
ILB Floyd Hill	1	0	25
S Jamal Arnold	1	0	10

Blocking Statistics

Columbia	KeyBl	BlOpp	RPly	SckA	PPly
Adrian Ward	1	5	19	0	23
Devin Frederick	1	4	20	0	15
Jeffrey Davis	1	3	9	0	11
Cary Norris	1	2	20	0	19
Kingston Denman	0	4	17	1	19
Teddy Vivaldi	0	3	12	0	7
Jesse Bingaman	0	2	6	1	12
Jamie McClary	0	1	9	0	7
Leslie Cerasani	0	1	19	0	16

Madison	KeyBl	BlOpp	Panc	RPly	SckA	PPly
Joel Simmons	6	8	0	37	0	33
Zach Brown	4	5	3	37	1	33
James Robinson	3	7	0	38	0	34
Neal Porter	1	5	0	21	0	7
Lewis McElroy	1	4	0	25	0	19
Allen Baxter	1	2	0	19	0	27
Albert Ferguson	0	1	0	39	1	33
Burt Welch	0	1	0	2	0	1
Wes Hughes	0	1	0	10	0	11
Erik Diligencia	0	1	0	24	0	18

Special Teams Tackles

Columbia	Tackles	STPlays
Cris Blair	3	18
Buddy Gordon	1	22
Albert Airhart	1	14

Madison	Tackles	STPlays
Dustin Rice	2	10
Lewis McElroy	1	16
Wes Hughes	1	16
Allen Baxter	1	4

Participation

Columbia	RPlyOff	PPlyOff	RPlyDef	PPlyDef	STPly	Total Plays
Dominic Van Hoose	---	---	37	31	20	88
Braxton Baker	---	---	37	30	19	86
Johnnie Kania	---	---	31	29	16	76
Noah Schwartz	---	---	34	21	17	72
Daryl Newhart	---	---	36	25	6	67
Amos Peterson	---	---	35	29	3	67
Buddy Gordon	20	23	---	---	22	65
Bubba Kollars	---	---	32	23	7	62
Cory Drayton	---	---	29	29	4	62
Walter Prescott	---	---	29	26	6	61
Lance Lane	---	---	28	25	7	60
Robert Schwab	---	---	25	24	10	59
Lonnie Drenik	---	---	29	24	4	57
Cary Norris	20	19	---	---	8	47
Adrian Ward	19	23	---	---	1	43
Darnell Reiswig	10	14	---	---	17	41
Cris Blair	11	11	---	---	18	40
Donnie Iker	11	11	---	---	15	37
Kingston Denman	17	19	---	---	---	36
Eric Cone	16	16	---	---	3	35
Devin Frederick	20	15	---	---	---	35
Leslie Cerasani	19	16	---	---	---	35
Jared Steuart	17	17	---	---	---	34
Taylor Hickman	11	13	---	---	9	33
Melvin Robson	10	19	---	---	---	29
Jeffrey Davis	9	11	---	---	9	29
Lionel Mohon	---	---	14	11	1	26
Jamie McClary	9	7	---	---	9	25
Dave Finch	16	8	---	---	---	24
Teddy Vivaldi	12	7	---	---	5	24
Matt Benton	5	10	---	---	8	23
Albert Airhart	2	6	---	---	14	22
Randall Dworak	7	7	---	---	8	22
Adrian Adams	---	---	10	10	1	21
Eddie Kirk	---	---	7	11	1	19
Jesse Bingaman	6	12	---	---	---	18
Luther Mitchell	---	---	7	11	---	18
Vincent Nowak	7	8	---	---	---	15
Leonard Head	---	---	3	9	1	13
Dean Mage	---	---	6	6	---	12
Tracy Ramsey	6	1	---	---	4	11
Max Manubay	6	4	---	---	---	10
Rob Brazell	0	0	---	---	9	9
Axel Blair	0	0	---	---	9	9
Eugene Boling	0	0	---	---	6	6
Damon Merchant	0	0	---	---	---	0

Madison	RPlyOff	PPlyOff	RPlyDef	PPlyDef	STPly	Total Plays
James Robinson	38	34	---	---	3	75
Joel Simmons	37	33	---	---	3	73
Albert Ferguson	39	33	---	---	---	72
Riddick Gonzalez	30	23	---	---	18	71
Zach Brown	37	33	---	---	---	70
Leslie Flemister	---	---	19	25	26	70
Lewis McElroy	25	19	---	---	16	60
Floyd Hill	---	---	22	25	12	59
Cornelius Woodcock	---	---	20	25	13	58
Korey Dailey	32	25	---	---	---	57
Jake Lapointe	---	---	23	26	6	55
Eugene Stuart	22	25	---	---	7	54
George Sims	21	16	---	---	16	53
Leo Franz	17	20	---	---	15	52
Erik Diligencia	24	18	---	---	9	51
Allen Baxter	19	27	---	---	4	50
Ken Stoffers	---	---	20	26	2	48
Carlton Dabrowa	27	20	---	---	---	47
William McGinn	---	---	21	23	2	46
Brenden Flory	---	---	19	23	1	43
Kendall Steussie	---	---	18	20	3	41
J.C. Wayne	---	---	20	15	3	38
Wes Hughes	10	11	---	---	16	37
Dustin Rice	13	11	---	---	10	34
J.R. Devine	---	---	13	18	2	33
Neal Porter	21	7	---	---	4	32
Floyd Graham	---	---	16	14	2	32
Pat Barton	---	---	13	9	7	29
Lionel Gray	5	5	---	---	18	28
Ken Oliver	---	---	7	4	16	27
Jamal Arnold	---	---	11	10	5	26
Renaldo Swillis	---	---	11	10	1	22
Darrin Shelton	---	---	8	7	4	19
Nicholas Schiller	---	---	6	12	1	19
Blake Dawson	7	9	---	---	---	16
Korey Galloway	---	---	8	2	3	13
Henry Mason	---	---	6	1	5	12
Kenny Kotz	0	0	---	---	12	12
Glen Stinnett	2	1	---	---	7	10
Roger Urbanski	---	---	5	2	3	10
Tanner Alarcon	0	1	---	---	7	8
John Wilcox	0	0	---	---	7	7
Billy Joe Jamison	0	0	---	---	7	7
Eric Haynes	1	2	---	---	1	4
Burt Welch	2	1	---	---	---	3
Cris Rivera	0	0	---	---	---	0

Directional Rushing Statistics

Distance	Att	Yards	Avg
Left	11	25	2.3
Middle	2	13	6.5
Right	13	24	1.8
None	0	0	0.0

Distance	Att	Yards	Avg
Left	8	41	5.1
Middle	29	170	5.9
Right	2	11	5.5
None	0	0	0.0

Detailed Passing Statistics

Columbia	Att	Cmp	20+	BdTh	Drop	Dfns	Hurr	Knck	Intc
Melvin Robson	17	9	0	2	2	1	1	1	0
Dave Finch	8	3	1	0	0	4	1	0	0

Madison	Att	Cmp	20+	BdTh	Drop	Dfns	Hurr	Knck	Intc
Korey Dailey	23	15	3	0	0	3	2	2	2
Blake Dawson	9	7	0	1	0	0	1	0	0

Directional Passing Statistics

Distance	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg
Screen	5	2	32	6.4
Short (0-8 Yds)	6	4	24	4.0
Medium (9-18 Yds)	8	6	55	6.9
Long (19+ Yds)	5	0	0	0.0

Distance	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg
Screen	4	4	56	14.0
Short (0-8 Yds)	17	13	91	5.4
Medium (9-18 Yds)	9	4	70	7.8
Long (19+ Yds)	2	1	26	13.0

Detailed Receiving Statistics

Columbia	Targt	Caugt	Dropd	Yards	20+	PPlay
WR Jared Steuart	5	2	1	34	1	17
RB Buddy Gordon	4	0	1	0	0	23
TE Cris Blair	3	3	0	25	0	11
TE Eric Cone	2	1	0	3	0	16
WR Donnie Iker	2	1	0	5	0	11
WR Darnell Reiswig	2	2	0	17	0	14
WR Randall Dworak	2	1	0	11	0	7
WR Vincent Nowak	2	1	0	13	0	8
WR Tracy Ramsey	1	0	0	0	0	1
RB Matt Benton	1	1	0	3	0	10

Madison	Targt	Caugt	Yards	20+	PPlay
WR Eugene Stuart	7	6	74	1	25
WR Leo Franz	7	5	72	2	20
WR Riddick Gonzalez	6	4	42	0	23
TE Erik Diligencia	4	2	21	0	18
FB Lewis McElroy	2	2	9	0	19
RB Carlton Dabrowa	2	1	3	0	20
RB George Sims	2	0	0	0	16
WR Eric Haynes	1	1	4	0	2
TE Wes Hughes	1	1	18	0	11

Red-Zone Rushing Statistics

Columbia	Att	Yards	Avg	Overall Avg
Buddy Gordon	3	7	2.33	2.67

Madison	Att	Yards	Avg	Overall Avg
Dustin Rice	2	0	0.00	3.80
Carlton Dabrowa	1	6	6.00	6.05

Red-Zone Passing Statistics

Columbia	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg/Att	Overall Avg
Melvin Robson	2	2	10	5.00	3.88

Madison	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg/Att	Overall Avg
Blake Dawson	1	1	10	10.00	6.44

Red-Zone Receiving Statistics

Columbia	Target	Catch	Yards	Avg/Targ	Overall Avg
WR Darnell Reiswig	1	1	7	7.00	8.50
TE Cris Blair	1	1	3	3.00	8.33

Madison	Target	Catch	Yards	Avg/Targ	Overall Avg
WR Eugene Stuart	1	1	10	10.00	10.57

Third Down Rushing Statistics

Columbia	Rushes	Conversions
Buddy Gordon	2	0
Max Manubay	1	0

Madison	Rushes	Conversions
Korey Dailey	1	0
Carlton Dabrowa	1	0
Dustin Rice	1	1

Third Down Passing Statistics

Columbia	Att	Comp	Conversions
Dave Finch	5	2	1
Melvin Robson	5	3	3

Madison	Att	Comp	Conversions
Korey Dailey	6	2	1
Blake Dawson	3	2	2

Third Down Receiving Statistics

Columbia	Targ	Catch	Conversions
RB Buddy Gordon	3	0	0
TE Eric Cone	1	1	0
WR Donnie Iker	1	0	0
WR Darnell Reiswig	1	1	1
WR Jared Steuart	1	0	0
TE Cris Blair	1	1	1
WR Randall Dworak	1	1	1
WR Vincent Nowak	1	1	1

Madison	Targ	Catch	Conversions
FB Lewis McElroy	2	2	1
WR Leo Franz	2	1	1
RB Carlton Dabrowa	1	0	0
WR Riddick Gonzalez	1	0	0
RB George Sims	1	0	0
TE Erik Diligencia	1	0	0
WR Eugene Stuart	1	1	1

Section Attendance
Stadium 64,900 (75,000 capacity)
Upper Deck 15,700 (21,000)
End Zone 12,900 (15,200)
Mezzanine 8,000 (8,800)
Sideline Seats 12,800 (13,500)
Club Seats 11,700 (12,000)
Luxury Boxes 3,800 (4,500)

Section	Attendance
Stadium	64,900 (75,000 capacity)
Upper Deck	15,700 (21,000)
End Zone	12,900 (15,200)
Mezzanine	8,000 (8,800)
Sideline Seats	12,800 (13,500)
Club Seats	11,700 (12,000)
Luxury Boxes	3,800 (4,500)