Week 15, 2010

played in Lansing, MI

68 degrees, fair, calm

Pittsburgh Power	0	3	0	3	-	6
Lansing Ogres	3	17	14	0	-	34

Scoring Summary
1Q: 07:52 LAN - Harris Sanderson 27 field goal
2Q: 13:51 PIT - Winfred Spotwood 29 field goal
2Q: 11:46 LAN - Isreal Davis 12 pass from Skip Hildebrand (Harris Sanderson extra point)
2Q: 08:20 LAN - Lionel Childers 17 pass from Skip Hildebrand (Harris Sanderson extra point)
2Q: 03:05 LAN - Harris Sanderson 18 field goal
3Q: 10:02 LAN - Sherman Jarvis 14 pass from Skip Hildebrand (Harris Sanderson extra point)
3Q: 01:16 LAN - Graham Kruse 1 run (Harris Sanderson extra point)
4Q: 00:10 PIT - Winfred Spotwood 30 field goal

Scoring Summary
1Q: 07:52 LAN - Harris Sanderson 27 field goal
2Q: 13:51 PIT - Winfred Spotwood 29 field goal
2Q: 11:46 LAN - Isreal Davis 12 pass from Skip Hildebrand (Harris Sanderson extra point)
2Q: 08:20 LAN - Lionel Childers 17 pass from Skip Hildebrand (Harris Sanderson extra point)
2Q: 03:05 LAN - Harris Sanderson 18 field goal
3Q: 10:02 LAN - Sherman Jarvis 14 pass from Skip Hildebrand (Harris Sanderson extra point)
3Q: 01:16 LAN - Graham Kruse 1 run (Harris Sanderson extra point)
4Q: 00:10 PIT - Winfred Spotwood 30 field goal

Team Statistics PIT LAN
Record 4-10 9-5
First Downs 14 24
- by Rushing 5 5
- by Passing 9 16
- by Penalty 0 3
Total Net Yards 272 413
- Offensive Plays 59 66
- Yards per Play 4.61 6.26
Net Rushing Yards 90 133
- Rushing Attempts 19 27
- Yards per Rush 4.74 4.93
Net Passing Yards 182 280
- Att./Comp./Intrcpt 36 - 23 - 2 36 - 20 - 0
- Gross Passing Yards 211 298
- Sacks/Yards Lost 4/29 3/18
- Yards per Pass Play 4.55 7.18
Fumbles/Lost 3/2 0/0
3rd Down Conversions 4/13 6/14
- Avg. YtG on 3rd Down 8.5 7.7
4th Down Conversions 0/0 0/0
Penalties/Yards 8/48 1/5
Punt Returns/Yards 4/71 2/31
Kick Returns/Yards 7/173 2/53
Interception Ret./Yards 0/0 2/0
2pt Conversions 0/0 0/0
Red Zone Visits 2 5
- Red Zone TDs/FGs 0/2 3/2
Avg. Drive Start OWN 33 OWN 29
Time of Possession 27:16 32:44

Team Statistics	PIT	LAN
Record	4-10	9-5
First Downs	14	24
- by Rushing	5	5
- by Passing	9	16
- by Penalty	0	3
Total Net Yards	272	413
- Offensive Plays	59	66
- Yards per Play	4.61	6.26
Net Rushing Yards	90	133
- Rushing Attempts	19	27
- Yards per Rush	4.74	4.93
Net Passing Yards	182	280
- Att./Comp./Intrcpt	36 - 23 - 2	36 - 20 - 0
- Gross Passing Yards	211	298
- Sacks/Yards Lost	4/29	3/18
- Yards per Pass Play	4.55	7.18
Fumbles/Lost	3/2	0/0
3rd Down Conversions	4/13	6/14
- Avg. YtG on 3rd Down	8.5	7.7
4th Down Conversions	0/0	0/0
Penalties/Yards	8/48	1/5
Punt Returns/Yards	4/71	2/31
Kick Returns/Yards	7/173	2/53
Interception Ret./Yards	0/0	2/0
2pt Conversions	0/0	0/0
Red Zone Visits	2	5
- Red Zone TDs/FGs	0/2	3/2
Avg. Drive Start	OWN 33	OWN 29
Time of Possession	27:16	32:44

Drive Charts

Pittsburgh Power
Quar	Began	Poss	From	Plays	Yards	Result
1	13:53	1:53	OWN 47	3	-6	Punt
1	7:45	1:24	OWN 48	3	0	Punt
1	4:07	5:21	OWN 40	9	48	Field Goal
2	11:55	0:09	OWN 20	1	7	Fumble
2	11:41	0:31	OWN 45	1	3	Fumble
2	8:14	1:47	OWN 32	3	5	Punt
2	2:57	2:07	OWN 30	8	45	Interception
3	15:00	3:01	OWN 13	5	20	Punt
3	9:54	3:50	OWN 27	6	9	Punt
3	1:10	3:04	OWN 24	8	36	Punt
4	11:31	2:08	OWN 10	4	55	Interception
4	7:04	1:48	OWN 35	3	6	Punt
4	2:50	2:47	OPP 32	5	19	Field Goal

Lansing Ogres
Quar	Began	Poss	From	Plays	Yards	Result
1	15:00	1:07	OWN 20	3	1	Punt
1	12:00	4:15	OWN 22	10	68	Field Goal
1	6:21	2:14	OWN 8	6	12	Punt
2	13:46	1:51	OWN 37	5	22	Punt
2	11:46	0:05	OPP 12	1	12	Touchdown
2	11:10	2:56	OPP 48	8	48	Touchdown
2	6:27	3:30	OWN 20	10	79	Field Goal
2	0:50	0:50	OWN 20	2	33	Half
3	11:59	2:05	OWN 22	4	78	Touchdown
3	6:04	4:54	OWN 46	10	54	Touchdown
4	13:06	1:35	OWN 20	3	8	Punt
4	9:23	2:19	OWN 23	3	6	Punt
4	5:16	2:26	OWN 9	3	1	Punt

Game MVP: Skip Hildebrand, Lansing Ogres

Rushing Statistics

Pittsburgh	Att	Yards	Avg	LG	10+
Thurman Richardson	9	38	4.22	7	0
Derrick Lear	8	46	5.75	22	2
Manuel Willoughby	2	6	3.00	3	0

Lansing	Att	Yards	Avg	LG	10+	TD
Graham Kruse	25	129	5.16	47	4	1
Dominic Guthrie	2	4	2.00	3	0	0

Passing Statistics

Pittsburgh	Att	Comp	Yards	Sk/Yd	TD	LG	Int	Rate
Manuel Willoughby	31	19	182	3/20	0	34	1	64.2
Jon Cavazos	5	4	29	1/9	0	11	1	51.3

Lansing	Att	Comp	Yards	Sk/Yd	TD	LG	Int	Rate
Skip Hildebrand	36	20	298	3/18	3	43	0	110.6

Receiving Statistics

Pittsburgh	Catch	Targ	Yards	Avg	YAC	LG
WR Blake Treu	6	9	59	9.83	19	18
TE John Edelstein	5	7	61	12.20	2	34
WR Dexter Edmonds	3	8	43	14.33	15	21
FB Joel Hepburn	3	4	8	2.67	7	9
WR Ken Richard	2	4	14	7.00	4	10
WR Chris Camp	1	1	10	10.00	0	10
RB Thurman Richardson	1	1	7	7.00	8	7
TE Matthew Borders	1	1	4	4.00	0	4
RB Derrick Lear	1	1	5	5.00	6	5

Lansing	Catch	Targ	Yards	Avg	YAC	LG	TD
WR Lionel Childers	9	12	116	12.89	16	18	1
WR Isreal Davis	4	6	58	14.50	13	20	1
WR Sherman Jarvis	3	11	64	21.33	38	43	1
TE Lorenzo Strom	1	3	15	15.00	0	15	0
RB Brock Marsden	1	1	17	17.00	12	17	0
RB Dominic Guthrie	1	1	5	5.00	0	5	0
WR Jerry Steber	1	1	23	23.00	0	23	0
FB Howie Leger	0	1	0	0.00	0	0	0

Interception Statistics

Pittsburgh	Ints	Yards	Avg	TD

Lansing	Ints	Yards	Avg	TD
S Richard Sibley	1	0	0.00	0
OLB Isaac Edwards	1	0	0.00	0

Fumble Statistics

Pittsburgh	Fumb	Recov
Thurman Richardson	2	0
Joel Hepburn	1	0
John Edelstein	0	1

Lansing	Recov	Force
Andrew Valley	1	0
Malcolm Carmody	1	0
Patrick Davey	0	1
Isaac Edwards	0	1
Lenny Kenny	0	1

Punting Statistics

Pittsburgh	Punt	Yards	Avg	Net	LG	In20
Britt Loom	7	328	46.9	36.7	63	3

Lansing	Punt	Yards	Avg	Net	LG	In20
Orlando Foster	6	298	49.7	34.5	57	2

Kicking Statistics

Pittsburgh	FGs	40+Yd	50+Yd	LG	PAT
Winfred Spotwood	2/2	0/0	0/0	30	0/0

Lansing	FGs	40+Yd	50+Yd	LG	PAT
Harris Sanderson	2/2	0/0	0/0	27	4/4

Punt Return Statistics

Pittsburgh	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD
Lonnie Beckman	2	35	17.5	0
Glenn Morrison	2	36	18.0	0

Lansing	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD
Lionel Childers	1	31	31.0	0
Dominic Guthrie	1	0	0.0	0

Kick Return Statistics

Pittsburgh	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD
Lonnie Beckman	4	95	23.8	0
Ken Richard	3	78	26.0	0

Lansing	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD
Dale Meyer	1	30	30.0	0
Lionel Childers	1	23	23.0	0

Defensive Statistics

Pittsburgh	Tack	Asst	Sack	RPlay	PPlay
ILB Isaiah Graybill	9	1	0.0	24	39
CB Douglas Phifer	7	0	0.0	24	38
S T.J. Cobbins	5	1	0.0	25	37
S Marshall Peters	4	1	1.0	18	33
OLB Charles Patch	4	3	0.0	25	38
DT Tod Woods	3	0	0.5	22	31
CB Glenn Morrison	3	0	0.0	24	39
OLB Geoffrey Trask	2	2	0.5	10	8
CB Bernie Hanshaw	2	2	0.0	13	28
DT Jack Hazzard	2	0	0.0	27	36
DE K.C. Cajigal	1	1	0.5	26	39
DE Jimmie Carlisle	1	0	0.5	1	3
DT Micah Canterbury	1	2	0.0	25	38
QB Manuel Willoughby	1	0	---	---	---
WR Dexter Edmonds	1	0	---	---	---
ILB Floyd Raines	1	0	0.0	3	0
C Derrick Haynes	1	0	---	---	---
DT Damon Harding	0	1	0.0	10	6

Lansing	Tack	Asst	Sack	RPlay	PPlay
DE Neal Peterson	6	0	2.0	16	31
OLB Andrew Valley	5	2	0.0	12	19
OLB Isaac Edwards	5	2	0.0	17	35
ILB Dexter Lemke	4	0	1.0	8	25
CB Patrick Davey	4	1	0.0	17	40
CB Dale Meyer	4	1	0.0	12	25
DT Lynn Phifer	3	1	0.5	17	35
ILB Stanford Granado	3	1	0.0	11	15
DE Chris Razo	2	0	0.5	16	35
S Lenny Kenny	2	1	0.0	13	23
DE Malcolm Carmody	2	0	0.0	8	18
S Richard Sibley	2	0	0.0	17	37
CB Rusty Hodges	1	1	0.0	8	21
S Dorsey Rockett	1	0	0.0	16	35
OLB Jason Glenn	1	0	0.0	1	2
DT Lane Williams	0	1	0.0	6	7
OLB Dwayne Burkholder	0	1	0.0	2	5
DT Jerome Sweeney	0	1	0.0	9	23

Pass Rush Statistics

Pittsburgh	Sack	Block	Hurry	PPlay
S Marshall Peters	1.0	0	0	33
DE K.C. Cajigal	0.5	2	2	39
DT Tod Woods	0.5	1	0	31
OLB Geoffrey Trask	0.5	0	0	8
DE Jimmie Carlisle	0.5	0	0	3
ILB Isaiah Graybill	0.0	1	0	39
DT Jack Hazzard	0.0	1	0	36
OLB Charles Patch	0.0	0	2	38

Lansing	Sack	Block	Hurry	Knock	PPlay
DE Neal Peterson	2.0	0	0	0	31
ILB Dexter Lemke	1.0	0	0	0	25
DE Chris Razo	0.5	1	1	1	35
DT Lynn Phifer	0.5	0	1	2	35
OLB Isaac Edwards	0.0	0	0	1	35

Pass Defense Statistics

Pittsburgh	Caught	Defnsd	PPlay
CB Douglas Phifer	5	1	38
CB Glenn Morrison	4	1	39
ILB Isaiah Graybill	3	0	39
CB Bernie Hanshaw	3	0	28
S Marshall Peters	2	0	33
S T.J. Cobbins	1	1	37
OLB Charles Patch	1	0	38
DT Damon Harding	1	0	6

Lansing	Caught	Defnsd	Intrcp	PPlay
OLB Isaac Edwards	5	1	1	35
CB Patrick Davey	4	0	0	40
OLB Andrew Valley	2	2	0	19
ILB Dexter Lemke	2	1	0	25
S Richard Sibley	2	0	1	37
CB Dale Meyer	2	0	0	25
S Dorsey Rockett	1	0	0	35
DE Chris Razo	1	0	0	35
CB Rusty Hodges	1	0	0	21
ILB Stanford Granado	1	0	0	15
OLB Jason Glenn	1	0	0	2
DE Neal Peterson	1	0	0	31

Blocking Statistics

Pittsburgh	KeyBl	BlOpp	RPly	SckA	PPly
Artie Denny	3	5	16	1	38
Nolan MacClelland	3	4	19	0	32
Daniel Stocks	1	2	16	0	29
Leland Vivaldi	0	3	15	1	31
Bill Dronett	0	2	15	1	34
Eric Pass	0	1	5	1	20

Lansing	KeyBl	BlOpp	Panc	RPly	SckA	PPly
Lincoln Edge	3	5	0	27	1	35
Terrance Chalmers	2	9	1	21	1	32
Isaac Wahl	1	6	0	27	0	39
Garret Sauer	0	2	0	18	0	28
Quinn Colley	0	2	0	22	0	37
Gerald Lane	0	1	0	5	0	2
Howie Leger	0	1	0	17	0	13
Derek McMahon	0	1	0	6	0	7
Monty Williford	0	0	0	9	1	11

Special Teams Tackles

Pittsburgh	Tackles	STPlays
Raymond Deville	2	17
Ken Richard	2	15

Lansing	Tackles	STPlays
Dale Meyer	2	18
Gerald Lane	2	8
Brady Doran	1	19
Brock Marsden	1	18
Shane Smith	1	17
Rob Ficken	1	16
Howie Leger	1	15
Dominic Guthrie	1	14
David Oglesby	1	8

Participation

Pittsburgh	RPlyOff	PPlyOff	RPlyDef	PPlyDef	STPly	Total Plays
K.C. Cajigal	---	---	26	39	8	73
Glenn Morrison	---	---	24	39	4	67
Isaiah Graybill	---	---	24	39	2	65
Jack Hazzard	---	---	27	36	2	65
Micah Canterbury	---	---	25	38	2	65
Charles Patch	---	---	25	38	2	65
T.J. Cobbins	---	---	25	37	3	65
Douglas Phifer	---	---	24	38	2	64
Artie Denny	16	38	---	---	3	57
Derrick Lear	11	23	---	---	23	57
Tod Woods	---	---	22	31	2	55
Leland Vivaldi	15	31	---	---	9	55
Marshall Peters	---	---	18	33	2	53
Daniel Stocks	16	29	---	---	7	52
Nolan MacClelland	19	32	---	---	---	51
Dexter Edmonds	16	34	---	---	---	50
Manuel Willoughby	15	34	---	---	---	49
Bill Dronett	15	34	---	---	---	49
Ken Richard	11	21	---	---	15	47
Blake Treu	12	33	---	---	---	45
Bernie Hanshaw	---	---	13	28	2	43
Chris Camp	7	12	---	---	16	35
Eric Pass	5	20	---	---	9	34
Joel Hepburn	7	21	---	---	5	33
Matthew Borders	11	9	---	---	13	33
John Edelstein	6	19	---	---	7	32
Raymond Deville	---	---	5	8	17	30
Geoffrey Trask	---	---	10	8	11	29
Carl Hylton	3	7	---	---	19	29
Thurman Richardson	10	16	---	---	2	28
Neal Saltzman	---	---	3	0	20	23
Phil Walz	5	7	---	---	9	21
Derrick Haynes	4	9	---	---	8	21
Ambrose Jones	1	5	---	---	14	20
Steve Paine	---	---	2	1	17	20
Lonnie Beckman	---	---	2	2	13	17
Damon Harding	---	---	10	6	1	17
Dean MacKinnon	---	---	7	4	2	13
Floyd Raines	---	---	3	0	7	10
Jon Cavazos	4	6	---	---	---	10
Britt Loom	0	0	---	---	9	9
Frank Parker	---	---	1	1	5	7
Winfred Spotwood	0	0	---	---	5	5
Jimmie Carlisle	---	---	1	3	---	4
David Rodrigez	0	0	---	---	---	0
Unknown	---	---	0	0	---	0

Lansing	RPlyOff	PPlyOff	RPlyDef	PPlyDef	STPly	Total Plays
Richard Sibley	---	---	17	37	16	70
Lionel Childers	25	37	---	---	7	69
Isaac Wahl	27	39	---	---	---	66
Skip Hildebrand	21	39	---	---	2	62
Lincoln Edge	27	35	---	---	---	62
Patrick Davey	---	---	17	40	4	61
Terrance Chalmers	21	32	---	---	8	61
Quinn Colley	22	37	---	---	---	59
Lynn Phifer	---	---	17	35	3	55
Chris Razo	---	---	16	35	4	55
Dale Meyer	---	---	12	25	18	55
Isaac Edwards	---	---	17	35	2	54
Dorsey Rockett	---	---	16	35	2	53
Graham Kruse	25	28	---	---	---	53
Neal Peterson	---	---	16	31	2	49
Lorenzo Strom	24	24	---	---	---	48
Lenny Kenny	---	---	13	23	12	48
Garret Sauer	18	28	---	---	---	46
Howie Leger	17	13	---	---	15	45
Sherman Jarvis	19	26	---	---	---	45
Isreal Davis	13	26	---	---	3	42
Stanford Granado	---	---	11	15	11	37
Jerome Sweeney	---	---	9	23	4	36
Jerry Steber	6	12	---	---	17	35
Dexter Lemke	---	---	8	25	1	34
Andrew Valley	---	---	12	19	1	32
Brady Doran	1	11	---	---	19	31
Rusty Hodges	---	---	8	21	1	30
Monty Williford	9	11	---	---	8	28
Malcolm Carmody	---	---	8	18	---	26
Dominic Guthrie	2	8	---	---	14	24
Brock Marsden	0	4	---	---	18	22
Derek McMahon	6	7	---	---	8	21
Dwayne Burkholder	---	---	2	5	14	21
Alvin Wolfe	---	---	3	9	7	19
Shane Smith	0	1	---	---	17	18
Rob Ficken	0	1	---	---	16	17
Gerald Lane	5	2	---	---	8	15
Lane Williams	---	---	6	7	2	15
Archie Kirsch	3	4	---	---	8	15
David Oglesby	0	4	---	---	8	12
Harris Sanderson	0	0	---	---	9	9
Jaime Morris	6	0	---	---	---	6
Orlando Foster	0	0	---	---	6	6
Jason Glenn	---	---	1	2	2	5
Iron Foot Guthrie	0	0	---	---	---	0

Directional Rushing Statistics

Distance	Att	Yards	Avg
Left	2	3	1.5
Middle	14	72	5.1
Right	3	15	5.0
None	0	0	0.0

Distance	Att	Yards	Avg
Left	9	61	6.8
Middle	15	48	3.2
Right	3	24	8.0
None	0	0	0.0

Detailed Passing Statistics

Pittsburgh	Att	Cmp	20+	BdTh	Drop	Dfns	Hurr	Knck	Intc
Manuel Willoughby	31	19	2	4	0	4	2	3	1
Jon Cavazos	5	4	0	0	0	0	0	1	1

Lansing	Att	Cmp	20+	BdTh	Drop	Dfns	Hurr	Knck	Intc
Skip Hildebrand	36	20	3	1	3	3	4	0	0

Directional Passing Statistics

Distance	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg
Screen	8	8	40	5.0
Short (0-8 Yds)	11	8	53	4.8
Medium (9-18 Yds)	9	5	66	7.3
Long (19+ Yds)	8	2	52	6.5

Distance	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg
Screen	0	0	0	0.0
Short (0-8 Yds)	9	7	122	13.6
Medium (9-18 Yds)	18	10	117	6.5
Long (19+ Yds)	9	3	59	6.6

Detailed Receiving Statistics

Pittsburgh	Targt	Caugt	Yards	20+	PPlay
WR Blake Treu	9	6	59	0	33
WR Dexter Edmonds	8	3	43	1	34
TE John Edelstein	7	5	61	1	19
FB Joel Hepburn	4	3	8	0	21
WR Ken Richard	4	2	14	0	21
WR Chris Camp	1	1	10	0	12
RB Thurman Richardson	1	1	7	0	16
TE Matthew Borders	1	1	4	0	9
RB Derrick Lear	1	1	5	0	23

Lansing	Targt	Caugt	Dropd	Yards	20+	PPlay
WR Lionel Childers	12	9	1	116	0	37
WR Sherman Jarvis	11	3	2	64	1	26
WR Isreal Davis	6	4	0	58	1	26
TE Lorenzo Strom	3	1	0	15	0	24
FB Howie Leger	1	0	0	0	0	13
RB Brock Marsden	1	1	0	17	0	4
RB Dominic Guthrie	1	1	0	5	0	8
WR Jerry Steber	1	1	0	23	1	12

Red-Zone Rushing Statistics

Pittsburgh	Att	Yards	Avg	Overall Avg
Derrick Lear	1	3	3.00	5.75

Lansing	Att	Yards	Avg	Overall Avg
Graham Kruse	11	25	2.27	5.16

Red-Zone Passing Statistics

Pittsburgh	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg/Att	Overall Avg
Manuel Willoughby	1	1	5	5.00	5.87
Jon Cavazos	1	1	9	9.00	5.80

Lansing	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg/Att	Overall Avg
Skip Hildebrand	7	4	48	6.86	8.28

Red-Zone Receiving Statistics

Pittsburgh	Target	Catch	Yards	Avg/Targ	Overall Avg
FB Joel Hepburn	1	1	9	9.00	2.00
WR Blake Treu	1	1	5	5.00	6.56

Lansing	Target	Catch	Yards	Avg/Targ	Overall Avg
WR Sherman Jarvis	3	1	14	4.67	5.82
WR Lionel Childers	2	1	17	8.50	9.67
WR Isreal Davis	1	1	12	12.00	9.67
RB Dominic Guthrie	1	1	5	5.00	5.00

Third Down Rushing Statistics

Pittsburgh	Rushes	Conversions
Manuel Willoughby	2	1

Lansing	Rushes	Conversions
Graham Kruse	2	1
Dominic Guthrie	2	0

Third Down Passing Statistics

Pittsburgh	Att	Comp	Conversions
Manuel Willoughby	9	6	3
Jon Cavazos	1	1	0

Lansing	Att	Comp	Conversions
Skip Hildebrand	9	6	5

Third Down Receiving Statistics

Pittsburgh	Targ	Catch	Conversions
WR Blake Treu	3	3	2
WR Dexter Edmonds	2	1	1
TE John Edelstein	2	2	0
FB Joel Hepburn	2	1	0
WR Ken Richard	1	0	0

Lansing	Targ	Catch	Conversions
WR Lionel Childers	3	3	2
WR Isreal Davis	2	1	1
WR Sherman Jarvis	2	0	0
RB Brock Marsden	1	1	1
RB Dominic Guthrie	1	1	1

Section Attendance
Stadium 49,800 (65,000 capacity)
Upper Deck 14,700 (19,600)
End Zone 10,700 (14,200)
Mezzanine 6,400 (8,200)
Sideline Seats 9,700 (12,500)
Club Seats 5,500 (7,000)
Luxury Boxes 2,800 (3,500)

Section	Attendance
Stadium	49,800 (65,000 capacity)
Upper Deck	14,700 (19,600)
End Zone	10,700 (14,200)
Mezzanine	6,400 (8,200)
Sideline Seats	9,700 (12,500)
Club Seats	5,500 (7,000)
Luxury Boxes	2,800 (3,500)